I always remove the green elderberries before processing the ripe ones for safety. If you are harvesting wild elderberries, make sure to do your research. or I took a mental health day yesterday from all media including social media, emails, tv, and radio. After I make the elderberry exilir and tincture, do they need to be stored in the fridge or can they be stored in a cabinet? The shelf life of a glycerin tincture is short, as well. Also, we will be launching our Herb Lab in January and these are exactly the kinds of questions that folks will be able to bring to be answered. Hello Michael – thanks for your question! Leather gloves are a good idea for picking because of reaching through thorns. You won’t get jack out of whole berries as there are no entrances for the menstruum. I have a lot of homemade apple scrap vinegar(with shiny new mothers n the jars) with a pH around 3.5 to 4.0. Some other constituents may be as well. xoxo. Seemed to be a bit stronger for me. Elderberries are seeing a resurgence in popularity mostly because foraging has become a trend among foodies. Like, this is so above my head. I am trying to decide between making elderberry syrup or fermented elderberry honey. You’ll get early information about what and when we will be teaching this winter. None of these contain toxins, although the seeds do. If not allowed to rest, the body breaks down eventually. Wild foods are packed with polyphenols! Now that’s a question for the ages. . ????? I would make sure that the kids would not eat too much of the leather with elixir/oxymel in it per day. Also wondering the difference in health properties between a tincture and an extract and how these compare in effectiveness to making your own with frozen berries. Then, drain the elderberries. How full was the jar with the elderberries? I realised that i must have been a fee days too early as id say i had about 20-30% red berries the rest were completely ripe. 9 pounds of elderberries is a massive amount and will make gallons of remedies. I’m curious : how long do you think fresh elderberries will last at room temp? I use the skins as they contain so many of the healthy antioxidants. Thank-you, it is very kind of you to answer all of these comments! I swirl them in my mouth to access the juice and skins, but don’t crunch down on them to break open the seeds. I freeze & vacuum pack most harvests- yet to have elderberries, will someday- have 12 starts to set out. I’m hoping to make a quality Vit C syrup but like elderberries everyone’s directions are to murder the fruit, killing all the Vit C, through excessive cooking. Consider these following elderberry products of mine. The best way to store elderberries long-term is to freeze them. Some require heat, some do not. While some claim they are not inherently necessary for a cell’s survival, they play key roles in the protection against pathogens, saline stress, heavy metal stress, UVA and UVB radiation. Is it bad if few “raisins” end up in the mix? Elder is probably the most well-known antiviral herb on the market at present. Let me know if you need more info! You don’t have to have a medicinal need to enjoy the many culinary uses of elderberries. I was worried about the presence of the seeds and the alcohol extracting the toxins. Hello, I made my very first batch of elderberry syrup harvested from our land. We only harvest the ripe berries. The berries also must be properly dried and separated from the leaves and stems or they can cause digestive problems. Thanks! Doing so with both can keep the medicine viable for about 2 years. Thank you! The herbal tea is totally safe to use as is, just add hot water, the dried elderberries must be cooked first, clearly stated on package and on the sales page. We added them to a mead we were making and was a little freaked out by everything on the internet saying that they were poison if not cooked for 20 minutes!!! We have been using a vitamix blender on slow speeds. is it more taste preference or does it need certain amount for the macerate process? Thank you, Carie, for your question! I was all ready to begin preparing to make elderberry syrup (berries picked fresh and frozen), by heating them with other ingredients, when I discovered your article and insight. We do this then freeze the juice in ice cube trays, then store. Here’s the site: https://phytochem.nal.usda.gov/phytochem/search/list. Malic acid is part of the ATP chain! What proof alcohol was used? The simple version: Is the goo something to be worried about or not? Neither your children nor your husband had any bad reaction. That is respect to the plant/plant community and the animals that thrive in the area, which may have had an opportunity to eat that harvest. Please feel free to do your research on this, and provide a book that is well written with valid info. All this to say, sure, dried elderberries cooked into syrup may still be effective against influenza viruses, however, if processed lightly, the effect would be greater. Michael Moore suggested 1 part plant material to 5 parts alcohol with dried plants. We were fine. Any suggestions on how to break up or dissolve the notorious elderberry goo from the pipes??? When it's done, do a quick release. Is there a way to make elderberry syrup without heat? but that the seeds are also contained in a small sac that’s not meant to be broken? Elderberries do better frozen than put in the fridge. Suzanne – Thank you for all of your information. It’s difficult to get all the stems out before cooking. Let me know the outcome! I know that I will be able to more easily assimilate the iron and calcium with acidic foods and menstrua. Saw sambucus products on shelves at pharmacy. People confuse cyanide with the cyanins which is the blue pigment in the berries. I never heat my berries. So many questions to ask before believing a story, in my never humble opinion. When I got the berries ready I took days actually picking through them to get rid of green and tiny pieces of stems. I tell them, “Do you want to be known for making half assed medicine or quality medicine that really gets the job done?” Personally, I’d pick only the viable berries and leave the others to drop or be food for a bird or other animal. Granted, I swirl them in my mouth to get the juice and skins and spit out the seeds. 1. Those are the questions for which I do my best to give thoughtful and well researched answers. Scoring the elderberries, I mean. Of course, raw, organic acv is the acv of choice at the Cedar Mountain Herb School! Chop up the flesh and process into your desired menstrua. It is not. Should this also be avoided? And if you don’t have elderberries in your area, you can of course order dried elderberries. They are tart and astringent and offer little complexity. This particular cinnamon aids in the reduction of blood sugar, which is a benefit to those with prediabetes. Should I avoid eating them and look into just jams and what not. Honey is acidic and is the perfect vehicle for transporting iron and calcium to our cells. To heat or not to heat? I would love to find some research either way, as I’ve read that some of the medicinal properties are actually increased through heating but now I’m seeing this. Were there seeds in the juice? Better not to risk it! It also allows the iron and calcium in the decoction to easily enter our cells. . https://www.cedarmountainherbs.com/newsletter-signup/. Long boiling/simmering. Did I leave it go too long with the berries in the vodka? Thank you so much for sharing your experience and life-long learning. Our digestive system isn’t that great at breaking open/dissolving the seed coats, luckily! Antioxidants are a very large group of chemicals that have a wide variety of actions including antiviral, antiallergic, anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, anticancer, and more. That way I know exactly what constituents and actions I’m extracting and preserving. I use fresh plant material 99.9% of the time to make my tinctures and adjust the proof to bring out the alcohol vs water soluble constituents. No heating occurs. This is not a tincture, but a preserved juice. xxoo! Hey there, I’m new to the elderberry community. In this climate of fear about contracting the coronavirus – and the influenzas A and B that are still being passed around – people are looking for definitive answers. Check to make sure you aren’t getting seeds through. I can then use them in my workshops. . Are there significant pros and cons? I have prepared a “first batch”, and will use both brandy with local unpasteurized honey as an elixir and organic apple cider with local unpasteurized honey as an oxymel. Hey there, I’m new to the elderberry community…. The symptoms were severe gastric upset and diarrhea. Thank you!! Thank you for your question! I have so many questions before I can give you a solid answer. Cooking With Elderberries: The Dos And Don’ts. Do you remove these, separate, and then keep the remaining berry? The native dried elderberries chew like little berry kernels about the size of peppercorns. Maybe not quite as potent as fully ripe berries? Some plants, such as elderberries, may have toxic substances in the some plants parts, but not in others. Hello Suzanne, There I can look up the active constituents and their actions in the body, then ask Uncle Google to tell me what kind of constituent it is (antioxidant? Its the stuff around/protecting the seed, but what does it contain? We also have an apiary and would like to add honey to the mixture. The elderberries that grow in Missouri are a red/purple variety, not blue. If you broke the skins and are seeing the greenish cast on the berries, that could be the mucilage that protectively surrounds the seeds. Good luck with that in the long run. Elderberries may be best known for their ability to combat flu viruses and respiratory ailments. Is that good medicinally, or should I just chuck the he extra blackberries in the freezer and enjoy them in the dead of winter? The berries put out quite a lot of juice, so you wouldn’t need to heat them to get the honey and ginger to fully incorporate with the juice. Pick through the dried elderberries and remove any twigs or unripe berries. Depending on how vigorous you were in your mashing, would depend on whether you broke open seeds. My thoughts: Days to pick through the berries are more than one sitting too long. Thank you for the time and effort you put into sharing! I’ve been learning about and using plants as medicine since I was a little pea in my Great Aunt Mary’s garden! Note also that cooking is not just important for making elderberries tasty, it neutralizes any poison contained in the seeds. I’m not sure what you’re asking regarding adding honey to the juice. we use this juice to make coconut ice cream sweetened with stevia or put it in our 9 berry smoothie with black currents, aronia, cranberry, raspberry, blueberry, elderberry, honeyberry, blackberry, and a few strawberry. Some will point to the instance back in the 80s where several people were “poisoned” by drinking a large quantity of fresh elderberry juice that included pressed leaves and branches. I’m so glad that you are as interested in the plants as they are in you! However, you chose to plant your elderberries just know that some varieties can reach as tall as 20’. Beneficial bacteria thrive in the gut with the addition of polyphenols, while bad bacteria are negatively impacted. Their dark, glossy skin makes them look a lot like grapes or black currants. Incidentally, as I replied in a comment earlier, the skins have their own medicine and straining them out means lost medicine. I spit the seeds out. Roll the berries around in a bowl and blow off the stems using the low and cold settings on a blowdryer. Given the choice, I would pick……neither. This recipe doesn’t say to cook the dried elderberries and so I’m wondering, if dried are used do you have to cook them? I have even thought about using some of the leftover powder in my four years old’s smoothie, but again, did not want to risk it….hence my research of dried elderberry powder/dried elderberries. Then I use the right proof of alcohol accordingly. There was a hippy gentleman who attended regularly and brought all kinds of herbal wines – Oregon grape, dandelion, elderberry, I can’t remember what all he brought. Thank you. Yep, out the exit shoot, intact. I’m a fan of getting the gel that envelopes the seeds into my remedies as well, so I mash them bit with my Grandma’s wooden berry masher that my Grandfather made for her a zillion years ago. Hope this answers your question to your satisfaction! Hello Amy! Place the water, dried elderberries, ginger, lemon peel, cloves, and cinnamon sticks in the liner of your Instant Pot. We eat about 4 pies a year and its only for fun, not for health tonic. Whole berries should last for a year at the most, if they were processed and stored properly. There are no toxins in the “juice,” gel around the seeds, or skins. 2. The “seed coat” you’re referring to…the gel? Bioflavonoids, AKA antioxidants, are capable of increasing bodily health by supporting strong immune function and cell formation, destroying cancer causing free radicals in the body that corrupt cellular information, have anti-inflammatory and anti-allergic properties, and are antiviral and antibacterial to name just a few of their actions in the human body. My focus is on sharing and teaching this valuable information. Unfrozen, the berries might require a little effort to remove. Happy medicine making! It depends on the age of the child, their constitution, needs, current health issues, etc. Elderberries bring tartness along with some nutritional value, what they don’t bring is a strong or distinctive flavor. I’d be happy to talk more about it with you. Elderberries can’t be eaten raw like blueberries or raspberries; instead, they need to be processed in some way – either cooked or tinctured. 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