It takes about the same amount of time driving down from Baltimore and about two hours if you’re driving up from Richmond. Gah! Long Bar , with depths of 2 to 5 feet, ext ends from the north side of the bay to within 1 mile of Holland Point, and is marked at its south end by a light. 1/13/20 As we mentioned it’s a pretty easy drive from Baltimore, Annapolis, and Washington. The channel entrance into Herrington South’s basin is straightforward and deep, but on the other end, the short section of channel from the Rockhold Creek breakwater to markers “8” and “9” is narrow and can be crowded on weekends and shallow in spots to about five or six feet at dead low tide. Required fields are marked *. Herring Bay. Tossed the net and checked for eggs. In Marin County on Paradise there is not a year where I have not seen activity there and it hasn’t hit yet. Today my wife and me where on the Ocean Beach. https://www.marincountyparks.org/parkspreserves/parks/paradise-beach There’s a lot of bird and seal action off Robert Crown Memorial beach in Alameda this morning. Hopefully you all find something I’ll be out of town and packing my casting net away tonight when I get home – I’m done scouting this season. Very little bird activity , hopefully they head this way tonight . Darn it! It lies in the mid- Chesapeake Bay along the western shore. Nothing but Jack Smelt lately. How long does it take you all? I’m the original BigMark Hope for a better season next year. Gonna go check it out. I think they know when we are preoccupied to get their spawn on! Starting to worry that over. That is completely right. If you want to stay ashore and still take advantage of all Herring Bay has to offer, you have two good choices, both of which we’ve mentioned earlier. You guys think tomorrow the herring will still be there. Thought the last minute rain would excite them. i do see some sea lions and birds but nothing serious. We are done with 6 buckets= 12 throws. “the moon phase right not is creating what i call close tides”. Herring usually spawn in any given location only once per season. An association between spawning time and tidal phases requires that the annual calendar dates of spawning times change between years. The mechanism of tidal influence on spawning is uncertain but may involve inhibition of spawning during periods of strong spring tides corresponding to periods of full and new moons. This thread will pick up once the spawn gets going. i got about 30 fish from 1230 to 130. ranger said its the FIRST he has seen or heard of the pier catching appreciable numbers. All three were documented by us. If there is any action, I’ll post immediately. Your email address will not be published. The Anchored Inn is conveniently nearby. it was obviously not a big spawn but i just thought id note that there are more than just large spawns going on i guess. In the meantime, I’ve seen the Richmond break wall (one of those red zones in the predicted spawning ground maps) lined shoulder to shoulder with cormorants a couple times this week past, so an acculamating biomass of something yummy appears to be on schedule. Reporting from Elephant rock. maybe “reds java house” near the bay bridge? I did check last week and pulled up eggs on vegetation. maybe about 100 yards from the wall. Yeah great time at Sausalito today! garbage, kelp and just about anything there was out in the water over the course of about a week. It’s time utilize your cast netting skills and get your spawn on!! Went by Kincaids on Sunday. They would fish for 4 to 6 days straight; Day and night. Just gotta follow the thread to see where they go. Which is plenty for one person. Wish I brought a rod. Also: what are the thoughts on the legalities of fishing from the new pedestrian path on the west side of the Richmond bridge? I really appreciate all of the reports. So pick your sources and not just run after every post. – when they spawn they go for the eel grass and such to lay eggs which brings them into shallow water where we can use sabiki rigs and cast nets to get them. The only two area’s where fish have been located, so far this year, is Sausalito (where Eddie went), and by ARW (Ballena bay), but no active spawn at the moment. No one was catching anything. Talked with a few fisherman, they said there were eggs, I walked pretty far out there, but found none. I gave up even checking the posts cause of that. Nothing. Get a t-shirt or hoodie and get your spawn on!! @my 8:45AM post, I meant Oyster not Coyote. I saw a lot of birds near Costco earlier and just now offshore near chevron i have a picture of all the birds but I can’t post it here. I know. I do not think it has happened yet at the pier. Read the Whole Kippers (Smoked Herring) in the Bay Area? Battery was dead and i didn’t see the message till now . I don’t think so. Just Checked Paradise again today around 10am and nothing. I hope with practice I will get this net out there. High tide today is at 4 p.m. Who wants to get a herring hunter shirt/ hoodie? Cjay and I got into a large spawn at Sausalito just north of the ferry terminal. Personally, I feel bad for people like them. A person’s individual road to growth is not linear. No birds, someone caught a small perch ‍♂️. Nothing to report at Ferry Point in Richmond. They’re hard to get to, even when on the shoreline of ballena. Before it were clouds of them! Not egg either. For them, this is often the most convenient spot, about an hour, on a good day, from downtown. -Porky Pig. I look forward to another great year!! If you had a boat you could still find the schools out on Richardson Bay as the schools started to spread out and move on a day or two later. If Herrington North (the one we mentioned that lies near the old Town Point) is all about mixing work and play, then Herrington South is all about play. You can get everything to eat here from fried pickles and steamed clams to a cheeseburger and catfish dinner. Sunset at the alameda rock wall. Confirmed but seems over mostly Jack’s being caught now. Thanks –TLA. The 24th is the last minus tide, and the 28th is the neap tide. No activity 9 am, I don’t think we’re done the Spawns were three weeks late this year. There have not been any reports so far of the herring staging outside the bay. just two campers, security lights spinning, nice moon in the night sky, but… Great to hear that it has started. Thank you. A lot juvenile birds, but they’re just sitting together in patches.. 4:45 at Paradise, No herring or egg. There were some buzzards eating something dead on the beach by the entrance. I got a report yesterday of a large school of herring followed by a mass of birds just 200 yards off of Sierra Point heading towards candlestick park . Yes 730 @ ferry pt – no eggs, fish nor birds/seals/sea lions, No activity at all for the past couple of days. Pier is empty, just major wind. Still not there yet. They need mental help. Make a few throws ……. However, stay tuned. No spawn from coyote point to dumbarton bridge seen today, super slow sturgeon fishing as well. The neap tide is when the currents associated with tides are the weakest, affording the eggs and milt of spawning fish more of a chance to mingle and fertilize. The shortest runs lasted about 4 days. If so, we should coordinate our efforts keeping an eye out for a spawn. Also, before work @8:45AM, I headed out to Coyote Point, nothing but wind and squirrels. Let us know if you get into them. For some reason it always happens around the AFC/NFC championship weekend!! I’m going to check out a few places in the south bay to look for signs of life over the holiday break. It’s mud and not a lot of vegetation but definitely found roe on the rocks there’s no fur bags there so they must’ve got their sex on and got the hell out Time to Pay more close attention they’re definitely around now. It doesn’t matter whether you choose the north or south end of the bay, because you won’t be separated from the other end. Whether you come on a bike or on foot, visit in spring to see hundreds of herring on their spawning migration upstream. @MJH, I just did a quick drive and check at Pt. They were chasing the large mass of Herring schooling off shore in Richardson Bay. I am personally on stand by until the next neap tides looks like favorable tides end of Feb very beginning of March – I do check Ferry Point, daily usually morning, when I am working – I am off this week. I can confirm tons if birds are starting come in at elephant rock. Gonna try and hit the high morning tide tomorrow and see if the luck changes. Don’t know if they still allow After a few practice casts confirmed nothing here yet. Checked Pt Richmond and San Quentin today 1/1/2020…..nothing. Thousands of birds including Pacific Brown Pelicans, Surf Scoters, scaup, B ufflheads, grebes, loon and cormorants are pursuing the energy-rich fish and roe (eggs), creating a glorious wildlife spectacle. ive seen that in the past followed by a spawn at either the oil terminal there nearby or at point molate. A day or two after the milting started the spawn was over. My wife has payed attention that ABSOLUTELY disappear birds. I saw an Instagram post of some eggs around the Sausalito area. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w0pjGioJ9E&t=363s. Seagulls wouldn’t know what was going on since they are surface eaters,I don’t think they are late just absent in numbers. Seems there there is some herring outside the rock wall and ballena bay. Let’s keep these report clean guys. Wow! After the spawn they would harvest the Eel Grass with the eggs on them and package them up for export to Asia. Thanks for the timely update sturgytees! im not an expert but here is what i understand. Richmond. 3:45 low tide at Paradise still nothing. If you come up on anything let us know! Barely any room to even throw your net. This welcoming indentation, with its fertile land and easy access to the rich fishing grounds of the Bay, have made it attractive from the earliest colonial days. Your email address will not be published. Herrington North even has its own West Marine. Really appreciate your insight and everyones reports. On the the north end of Herring Bay—about two and a half miles away—the action centers on Rockhold Creek. thank you guys! Herring Bay is a bay in Anne Arundel County in the U.S. state of Maryland. Some people get a kick out of that. I just have to have a date when I can quit. See alot birt at Candlestick park closed to 101 free way. Just checked Aqua vista /mccovey cove nothing. From what i heard, and on this post, it was a small spawn and was over by 2:30 p.m. I’ll go back tomorrow at high tide. Beginners should get a 4-5 ft net while more experienced hunters can get larger sizes. After late January’s herring hullabaloo, we’re finally starting to see the fish pop-up on local restaurant menus. The excerpts I did read were a very good easy read. I would not drive up here right now. Need the bait. Remember, the season for this Bay Area fish is short and sweet — and restaurant menus are ever-changing — so eat it while you can. great vincent! 7:15 am (Sat) no signs of activity at coyote, Spawn is on right now in the rocks just north of the ferry terminal sausalito. Location unknown. and keep my eyes out on reports as well, thanks to those others who are reporting. Had to keep checking. Going to try and check Paradise tomorrow after work. Guide’s Choice ® frozen bait is the natural food that both fresh and salt-water fish find irresistible. No eggs either. But its gotta be soon. You can also explore adjacent Tracy’s Creek above the S.R. Still feels like there’s more to come. 1230. Too dark for me to see any signs of recent activity. “Th-th-th-th-th that’s all folks!” So if you want a guaranteed date to catch herring (locations TBD) I’d clear out some time from Jan 30th to about Monday feb 3rd on the calendar. Nothing at Paradise beach park at 4:15. I wanted to thank you, Moon & TLA, for your scouting efforts. Just beyond, Hidden Harbour Marina offers slips, a playground for kids, the Boathouse Bar for adults, and the popular Anchored Inn for those who prefer to stay ashore. Herring Bay is situated east of Fairhaven-on-the-Bay , south of Long Bar . 12.30 pm.no Activity January 11. I was picnicking at big break. This was 1pm, #fakenews is going to be banned from the site. My guess is that they will be in Marin, Paradise Beach Park, before Point Richmond (These are the two places where I had success). Ferry point… nada, nothing, zip, zero. Ride in style to local waterfront restaurants with the water taxi and explore countless cruising destinations. I was there during the jacksmelt bonanza – we only netted two fingerling jacksmelt – no herring. “BIGMARK” imposter! this translates into less water movement which means less current forces in the bay. 7:45 am Warmwater cove same FYI. Nothing. I did OK, thanks. OTHER MARK, very irresponsible to publish a fake news, Point Richmond no any activity today. I went to ferry point too check and it was dead quiet. For those of you with children, take them whale watching at least so they can describe to their children what whales looked like. 最近几乎每天都来看看。Recently I checked this page almost every day. Nothing. Maybe I’m wrong but haven’t heard anything that way. Nothing at Paradise. Sorry for the late reply Moon ,there was nothing after you left yesterday. Lot’s of birds feeding on Belvedere Pt., but no fish on sonar or jigs. Management Outlook. Do you have a link for this? I ordered the book and look forward to reading it. Net and Sabiki. Hopefully they will be at ferry point in the next few days. Its a long drive but the neap has arrived. I was in south San Francisco today, so i dropped by Coyote and Fisherman’s point. Crescent City usually early February. Appears only fishable by boat/ yak but possibly off the rocks which is more likely snag city. We’ll start at the south end of Herring Bay, which is occupied by Herrington Harbor South, tucked neatly within its own basin. Checked the eel grass along the Golden Gate Bridge to the warming hut area yesterday and no eggs either. Great swirling schools of herring converged in San Francisco Bay this month, drawing fishermen, sea lions, harbor seals and thousands upon thousands of birds looking to … Here is the new limit on Herring: Pacific Herring Effective March 1, 2020 a ten-gallon recreational Pacific Herring daily bag limit goes into effect (approximately 100 pounds, or 520 fish). Thank you for the book reference. I missed out yesterday and am really hoping I’ll have a second chance to be a part of this years Spawn! That seems like when the biologists have deemed it over. Let’s keep this thread open for another two weeks and see where it goes. Wow, that’s great. 2PM Monday 27Jan. This goes with a recent reports of eggs deposited in the area. Somehow I feel that last comment regarding Antioch is #fakenews unless I see some proof here. This was 10 years ago. Hello Everyone, Whats the best tide to catch them ?? Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Large spawn!! Send it to keith@thelostanchovy.com — TLA. can anyone clarify with more info? Looks like people are expecting them to head that way a few people setting up but no herring. Ballena bay near ARW has had a small group of birds and seals working for the past week. Nothing at Crown Beach. can you give any help with this? I hope you are all healed up. The spawn is on!! No action at Richmond Ferry yesterday. Introduction to California Halibut Fishing | CCK Fishing Team Kayak Fishing Seminar, Water temperature, Color, Ocean Tides and Swells, Read this Article: Why Becoming a responsible herring hunter is important, Betts Old Salt Premium Cast Net for Bait Fish with Utility Box, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_QfMW8a5gg&t=10s, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w0pjGioJ9E&t=363s, https://books.google.com/books/about/Chasing_Clayoquot.html?id=W-pQBAAAQBAJ, https://www.marincountyparks.org/parkspreserves/parks/paradise-beach. We were finished by 12:30pm. Last week there was pronounced hunting activity diving pelicans etc visible for over an hour from seafood peddler in Sausalito. Daily eyes will help a lot. i heard about some herring mission bay this morning. Checked out ARW this evening. Checked out Sausalito, Fort Baker, Paradise pier, and Ferry Point this morning. No signs of eggs on the seaweed either. Just checked Point Richmond, tossed the net 3 times, at 4:20 and got nothing. The best cast net catching involved night time fishing. Been sitting over here in Saualito watching the birds. Thanks –TLA. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. I sure do miss those wide open huge Herring runs on Richardson Bay. Birds are just waiting. No herring, no eggs, no birds. Help support this blog by purchasing items via our affiliate links. Jus some guys mad about the post. Thanks for the info. Hello all I am no scientist I only listen to what they say. Not much bird activity today. i wanted to pass on the message here because maybe we need better herring scouts to report here? Z will appear in his pontoon boat, Solo Cup, to make it happen. It takes about the same amount of time driving down from Baltimore and about two hours if you’re driving up from Richmond. We have not seen that this year, so far. Stopped by Ferry Point in Richmond about 5:30pm after work and saw no action. Currently 7:15 am at coyote point. With the earlier false posts of spawns it’s up to you to just come up or get a second person to verify. I stayed at Saulalito most of the day yesterday. no activity at ferry pt, pt richmond at 1pm today. what this means is that besides incoming or outgoing tide the moon phase right not is creating what i call close tides so that the high tides and low tides are not far apart. 8:00 am. So there may be some aftermath to find somewhere. 7:15AM @Ferry Point, no action, water is flat, and it’s another beautiful day! 8:04 am. Will try point Richmond on our way back and maybe Paradise. 7:30am Candlestick point. 3:30 pm nothing at Ft. Baker. It’s a whole resort in one neat package. Commercial fishing effort has not occurred in Tomales Bay, Humboldt Bay and Crescent City since 2007, 2005 and 2002 respectively. no activity observed here, or north around and past pt molate. This is the kind of place where people come to get married. Just checked Sausalito looks like it’s done. Thank Sean. I’ll only make a trip to the South Bay if there are confirmed spawns and I missed the Marin and Richmond spawns. Hope everyone is having a good time this holiday season and be careful out there see you on the pier,docks or rocks. I do have an opinion that after the eggs are deposited on the eel grass, kelp and rocks they get fertilized and they develop. Betts Old Salt Premium Cast Net for Bait Fish with Utility Box also have great reviews on Amazon. Tomales Bay Fishery. Do you want to relax and get away from it all? anyway… i always have bad luck getting onto the herring but they are still out there. You may even decide to get off the boat and stay in the inn. It’s a place where the herring spawned on February 2nd. Talked to a birder at he said the birds have been round for weeks and hint clams. The British set fire to a tobacco barn and left. I’m tempted to go out in a raft. Let him know and let me know what I should do with it. Has anyone caught herring on an Treasure Island?Which tide is better:low or high? commercial fishing for Herring. 2017 Bristol Bay Area Annual Management Report (PDF 1,853 kB); 2016 Bristol Bay Area Annual Management Report (PDF 1,925 kB); 2015 Bristol Bay Area Annual Management Report (PDF 744 kB); 2014 Bristol Bay Area Annual Management Report (PDF 1,002 kB); 2013 Bristol Bay Area Annual Management Report … 4:30 pm eggs confirmed at elephant rock. If the eggs are in the embryo stage then the run is probably over. Thank you!I can’t contact him right now!I’ll give you his email!Thanks for the information, His email is Jiangzf09@gmail.com,thanks again, Im trying to get herring early morning tomorrow anyplace you guys suggestions where i should go , trying to pop my herring cherry lol. The herring spawns have been shifting since last year. Thinking neap tide next weekend. Its name tells you what makes it special – this U.S. Army Corps of Engineers recreation area is where the Herring River flows into the canal. Maybe later or tomorrow? It was nice to meet you Moon. Best if you have a boat. I know there was some fake news earlier in the season but i thought reliable sources said season was over end of febuary? Pelicans and gulls feeding on something out of reach. ill try again tomorrow morning. Just need to be patient. She got a few, but ended up catching more Jack Smelt then Herring. But did find another article saying the same thing how to enable JavaScript in browser. 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